# Hour 2: Hugh and Joe Clash Over Jalen Hurts' "Winner" Label

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Podcast: [94WIP Middays with Hugh Douglas and Joe Giglio](https://stenobird.com/podcast/94wip-middays-with-hugh-douglas-and-joe-giglio-947819)
Published: 2026-06-19T18:21:26+00:00
Episode link: https://player.amperwavepodcasting.com?feed-link=https%3A%2F%2Frss.amperwave.net%2Fv2%2Fepisode%2F8465224_2026-06-19-164924
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Duration seconds: 2631

## Resource

Hugh Douglas and Joe Giglio engage in a heated debate over whether wins should be considered a quarterback statistic, with a focus on Jalen Hurts' career. They analyze the impact of the roster on a quarterback's record and compare the career trajectories of players like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Producer Kyle and several callers join the conversation to discuss whether Hurts is the driving force behind the Philadelphia Eagles or a beneficiary of his environment. 01:47 - Bryce Harper Position Debate 03:00 - Are Wins a QB Stat? 09:16 - Evaluating Hurts in Super Bowl 57 18:20 - Brady vs Manning Evolution 26:30 - Kyle Joins the Debate 36:30 - Joe's Performance Evaluation Stance 42:15 - Mariota and Contextual Stats

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