# The World of Fake Values: Garry Kasparov with Bret Stephens

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Published: 2026-05-01T15:55:00+00:00
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Few public intellectuals have anticipated the shape of the present moment with such prescience as Garry Kasparov. In a major live conversation, Kasparov joins Bret Stephens to discuss his bracing new book, The World of Fake Values: Ukraine Under Fire, A.I. Amok, and the Putinization of America Under Donald Trump . A former world chess champion who gave up the game at the height of his power to confront Vladimir Putin's authoritarian rise, Kasparov has spent decades thinking about how democracies fail – and how they might be saved. Drawing on fresh reporting, recent essays, and conversations with thinkers ranging from A.I. researchers to Ukrainian dissidents, he argues that today's political chaos follows a grim internal logic: the hollowing out of democratic values, the weaponization of technology, and the normalization of authoritarian tactics in plain sight. In conversation with New York Times opinion columnist Bret Stephens, Kasparov examines why Ukraine matters to Americans, what artificial intelligence reveals about human judgment, and whether a democratic majority can still reclaim moral and political ground. Urgent, clear-eyed, and deeply informed, this is a conversation about power, values, and what comes next.

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