# Paul Keating's unfinished argument for an independent Australia Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/7am-529740/paul-keating-s-unfinished-argument-for-an-independent-australia Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/7am-529740/paul-keating-s-unfinished-argument-for-an-independent-australia.md Podcast: [7am](https://stenobird.com/podcast/7am-529740) Published: 2026-09-04T19:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://omny.fm/shows/7am/paul-keatings-unfinished-argument-for-an-independent-australia Audio file: https://p.podderapp.com/2544644999/traffic.omny.fm/d/clips/2fb3740d-3436-44af-8cc0-a91900716aa5/62723a1f-3e96-4fc4-882c-b25e0181da4d/bcc05c2c-44b0-4ac9-9ca0-b4bb005894c5/audio.mp3?utm_source=Podcast&in_playlist=70f29d90-2a63-48aa-bf8f-b25e0181da70 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/7am-529740/episodes/paul-keating-s-unfinished-argument-for-an-independent-australia Duration seconds: 1131 ## Resource Paul Keating has been out of office for thirty years. But he’s never really left the national conversation. Keating wanted Australia to find its security in Asia, not from it, and to stop defining itself through bigger powers in the Anglosphere. That vision now sits uneasily alongside AUKUS, a more powerful China, and an Australia tied ever more closely to the United States. Today, historian and author of  Grand Ambition James Curran, on Keating’s argument for a more independent Australia – and why it continues to challenge the modern Labor Party.   If you enjoy 7am , the best way you can support us is by making a contribution at 7ampodcast.com.au/support .   Socials: Stay in touch with us on Instagram Guest: Historian and author of Grand Ambition , James Curran Photo:  AAP Image/Darren England See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/7am-529740/episodes/paul-keating-s-unfinished-argument-for-an-independent-australia/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/7am-529740/paul-keating-s-unfinished-argument-for-an-independent-australia.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.