# Rod Martin: NATO Is So Useless Today (19 min) | 07-12-26

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Podcast: [77 WABC MiniCasts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/77-wabc-minicasts-5907352)
Published: 2026-07-12T21:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Roger Stone and technology entrepreneur Rod Martin engage in a geopolitical analysis centered on a hypothetical second term for Donald Trump. The discussion highlights a strategic military approach to Iran, where the speakers claim the administration is successfully fostering internal factional conflict and targeting specific revolutionary guard units rather than national infrastructure to prepare for a "free Iran." Shifting to international alliances, the pair critiques NATO’s current utility, arguing that European nations have failed to meet their financial obligations while the U.S. successfully pressured allies and utilized deep-strike capabilities to force Russia toward negotiations in Ukraine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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