# Lionel - Debate Around Ground Zone

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Podcast: [77 WABC MiniCasts](https://stenobird.com/podcast/77-wabc-minicasts-5907352)
Published: 2026-09-12T08:52:56+00:00
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Duration seconds: 497

## Resource

During the Final Hour With Lionel, He Gets in a Debate With a Caller Who Worked at the World Trade Center. The Caller Who Is a Former Blacksmith, to Which He Suggesting That Elevator Shafts Created a Chimney Effect That Intensified the Heat Until the Floors Collapsed. Overall Lionel Went on to Highlight the Tension Between Firsthand Worker Accounts and Conspiratorial Inquiries Regarding the Events of 9/11.

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