# Alvin Lui: Meritocracy Is an American Experiment (13 min) | 07-05-26

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Published: 2026-07-06T00:58:00+00:00
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## Resource

Jake Novak and guest Alvin Lui explore the state of American national identity by focusing on the power of individual decisions rather than broad historical forces. Lui, representing the organization "Courage is a habit," argues that the modern education system has shifted its primary goal from academic excellence to the cultivation of anti-American sentiment, suggesting that low test scores are actually a sign of the system’s success in prioritizing ideology over merit. The conversation champions the ideal of meritocracy as a uniquely American experiment that, while imperfect, remains the most effective way to foster human flourishing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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