# #567 - How to Turn Cold Outreach Into Real Conversations | Adia Toll

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Podcast: [30 Minutes to President's Club | No-Nonsense Sales](https://stenobird.com/podcast/30-minutes-to-president-s-club-no-nonsense-sales-705184)
Published: 2026-04-23T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/THMPC6556830886.mp3?updated=1777325510
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## Resource

In this episode we take how Adia Toll engineered a 72% reply rate by shifting from pitch-first selling to conversation-first prospecting and the exact systems behind it. ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Grind → optimize → automate (GOAT framework): Manually run your entire outbound motion first, then optimize each step before automating so you scale what actually works. Focus on one metric at a time: Pick a single KPI (like reply rate), reverse engineer it, and ignore everything else until you 10x it. Prioritize conversations over meetings: Start simple, human back-and-forth dialogue first—meetings come easier once rapport is built. Don’t scale bad outbound: Avoid “spray and pray” automation—optimize for quality conversations, not activity volume. ADIA'S PATH TO PRESIDENT'S CLUB: First Sales Hire at AskElephant 150-250% of Annual Quota as a rep. SDR to SDR Manager to Head of Sales Development in 4 years These Courses Will Get You to President’s Club: Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 Exec Selling Course: https://bit.ly/4lCtJh7 Leadership Course: https://bit.ly/4o8KtMT Get More Tactics: Free Toolkits: ⁠http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5⁠ Join our weekly newsletter – https://hubs.li/Q02NJQ8p0 Things you can steal and use today – https://linktr.ee/30mpc_youtube

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