# Chapter 157: Paul Hawken junks jargon to jolt generations

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Published: 2026-02-01T22:09:00+00:00
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## Resource

Paul Hawken is a brilliant thinker, author, activist, and elder who masterfully distills wisdom about our planetary home. I remember hearing Paul's 2009 commencement speech called " ​ You Are Brilliant and The Earth is Hiring ​ " where he said "You are going to have to figure out what it means to be a human being on Earth at a time when every living system is declining and the rate of decline is accelerating." Paul is the author of nine bestselling books including ' ​ Drawdown ​ ', ' ​ Regeneration ​ ', and his latest book ' ​ Carbon, The Book of Life ​ '—an incredible book that came out in 2025 and masterfully distills endless planetary wisdom into simple truths we all need to hear. (I included it in ' ​ The Very Best Books I Read in 2025 ​ .') Grab a seat between us and let's talk about how nature cooperates, why fighting climate change is the wrong metaphor, why the climate crisis is a human crisis, how jargon disconnects, and what decades of activism have taught Paul about being human. This conversation with a sage of sages stuck with me and I think it'll stick with you. Let's flip the page into Chapter 157 now ...

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