# How to Get $500M to Build a Website

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Podcast: [2Bobs—with David C. Baker and Blair Enns](https://stenobird.com/podcast/2bobs-with-david-c-baker-and-blair-enns-1019293)
Published: 2025-09-10T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://2bobs.com/podcast/how-to-get-500-million-dollars-to-build-a-website
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## Resource

Blair tells the story of recreation.gov and how its performance pay deal has been nothing but wins for every party involved, with plenty of lessons for buyers and sellers of all kinds of services. LINKS "Performance Pay Leads to a $500M Website" by Blair Enns for winwithoutpitching.com Recreation.gov

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