# #530 Mike Stone: Can 10 People Scale $5M to $10M?

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Podcast: [21st Century Entrepreneurship](https://stenobird.com/podcast/21st-century-entrepreneurship-6829325)
Published: 2026-07-20T18:00:00+00:00
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Mike Stone is President & CEO of CertaPro Painters®, and we spoke about building scalable businesses through trust, proven systems, technology, and values. After more than 26 years with the organization, Mike believes sustainable growth comes from moving beyond individual projects toward long-term relationships because “projects end,” while strong customer relationships endure. Mike explained how franchising lets entrepreneurs be “in business for yourself, not by yourself,” combining inde...

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