# Independence vs Isolation in Private Practice with John Marvin

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Podcast: [20/20 MONEY: The Business of Optometry](https://stenobird.com/podcast/20-20-money-the-business-of-optometry-336242)
Published: 2026-04-13T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://integratedpwm.com/388
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## Resource

In this episode I sit down with John Marvin to explore a challenging but important idea for private practice owners: the difference between independence and isolation. We unpack John's perspective on why fierce independence can sometimes limit growth when it prevents doctors from learning from others or leveraging the resources already available to them. Our conversation touches on mindset, the importance of personal growth as a business owner, and why building something bigger than yourself often requires becoming comfortable with discomfort. If you are thinking about the long term future of your practice and how to strengthen private practice in an evolving profession, this discussion will challenge the way you think about leadership, collaboration, and the role you play in the success of your business. On a personal note, I really enjoy my conversations with John. I usually get a number of pieces of feedback from listeners when I have him on the show. He's been around the profession and business of optometry for decades, and I certainly appreciate his candor, perspective, and opinions. I trust you as a listener do as well. Resources: Book a Triage call with Adam Download the Practice Owner's Financial Toolkit 20/20 Money Ultimate Financial Success Masterclass OD Mastermind Interest Form Private Practice Was Not Defeated by Corporate, It Surrendered Connect with John Marvin on LinkedIn ————————————————————————————— Please rate and subscribe to 20/20 Money on these platforms Apple Podcasts Spotify ————————————————————————————— For past episodes of 20/20 Money with full companion show notes, please check out our episode archive here! Check out Adam's other podcast! The Optometry Success Podcast Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/4tttng6 Subscribe on Spotify: h…

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